Also, Ben McPartland explains why Brits anxious about Brexit are being told to bide their time.
And Fiona Govan explains how a gang rape at Pamplona's famous bull-running festival has made Spaniards stand up for a woman's right to be believed.
You can listen below, via the Acast app, on the Apple podcast app or on iTunes.
Presenters: James Savage and Emma Löfgren
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